2019 October Odometer

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Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Z Car Club of Colorado or the Odometer editor.

President’s Corner

“There’s a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say, “Cuckoo”
Cuckoo, cuckoo
Regretfully they tell us cuckoo, cuckoo
But firmly they compel us
To say, “Goodbye”, to you

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good night
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, adieu
Adieu, adieu, to you and you and you

So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen
I’d like to stay and taste my first champagne

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye
I leave and heave a sigh and say “Goodbye”, goodbye

I’m glad to go, I cannot tell a lie
I flit, I float, I fleetly flee, I fly

The sun has gone to bed and so must I
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye

—- Sound of Music

Goodbye and time for another transition. This time it is to a kinder and gentler and nonpolitical world of ZCCC, as I and the Club was told in a mean and accusatory manner. The new Board will have to fill the positions of VP and Interclub Liaison. Choose well. I tried to leave the Club in better shape than it was in two years ago after a year of no leadership (thru no fault of the President at the time) or action and in some ways I may have, but C’est la vie, (or perhaps it’s Say La Vie according to Google), I did my best but maybe I shouldn’t have taken President again because I take matters too seriously while others around me were less serious.

“When you’re driving through the desert
And your car runs out of gas
Lotsa luck, pal, lotsa luck
When you try to stop some strangers
They will holler as they pass
Lotsa luck, pal, lotsa luck

So you walk eight miles and all uphill
To call the Auto Club
And the whole thing’s nip and tuck
‘Cause they’ll ask you for your number
And your number’s in your wallet
And your wallet’s in your car, so lotsa luck

When your television set breaks down
And needs repairin’ bad
Lotsa luck, pal, lotsa luck
You look through the Yellow Pages
For an honest-looking ad
Lotsa luck, pal, lotsa luck

Then the fellow comes
And says your set must go into the shop
And he takes it in his truck
Four months later when he brings it back
It’s someone else’s set
Besides he drops it down the steps, so lotsa luck

Some people think a horseshoe’s
Gonna bring them lots of luck
horseshoe is a luck charm, of course
But for every set of horseshoes
Human beings use for luck
Somewhere in this world’s a barefoot horse
(A barefoot horse)

When you buy a tape recorder
Of the automatic kind
Lotsa luck, pal, lotsa luck
If it’s simplified for folks
Who aren’t mechanically inclined
Lotsa luck, pal, lotsa luck

There’s a small instruction booklet
That’s one hundred pages long
And on page one you get stuck
It says, if unsatisfactory
You must bring this to the factory
And the factory’s in Japan, so Rotsa Ruck ”

Songwriters: Allan Sherman / Lou Busch

There is a proposed amendment to the Constitution that will come up for discussion and a vote at the November meeting. I urge all of you to be there for what I am sure will be a deep and spirited exchange of ideas. This proposed amendment has to do with active member points and the manner in which notice must be given to the membership of ZCCC for a proposed event to become “sanctioned” or in other words, if you attend this event you become eligible for Active Member Points. At present the only acceptable method to have an event determined to be “sanctioned” is by tendering an article about the event to the VP who clears the date, and then the article is forwarded to the Odometer Editor for publishing in the Odometer and the publishing of the event must be at least 15 days in advance of the event. The purpose of this proposed amendment is to allow publication/notice by using FaceBook or the website. I hope that everyone who wants to speak gets at least the same 30 seconds previously used for a campaign speech. Notice to the Club is one issue, but I’ve come to believe that the real problem is the concept of Active Member Points.

I was cruisin’ in my Stingray late one night
When an XKE pulled up on the right
He rolled down the window of his shiny new Jag
And challenged me then and there to a drag

I said “You’re on buddy — my mill’s running fine
Let’s come off the line now at Sunset and Vine
But I’ll go you one better, if you’ve got the nerve
Let’s race all the way — to Dead Man’s Curve”

(Dead Man’s Curve) is no place to play
(Dead Man’s Curve) you’d best keep away
(Dead Man’s Curve) I can hear ’em say
“Won’t come back from Dead Man’s Curve”

The street was deserted late Friday night
We were buggin’ each other while we sat out the light
We both popped the clutch when the light turned green
You shoulda heard the whine from my screamin’ machine!

I flew past La Brea, Schwab’s and Crescent Heights
And all the Jag could see were my six taillights
He passed me at Doheny then I started to swerve
But I pulled her out and there we were – at Dead Man’s Curve

(Dead Man’s Curve) is no place to play
(Dead Man’s Curve)

“Well, the last thing I remember, Doc
I started to swerve
And then I saw the Jag slide into the curve
I know I’ll never forget that horrible sight
I guess I found out for myself that everyone was right”

Won’t come back from Dead Man’s Curve
— Jan and Dean

The concept of Active Member and Most Active Member was created by a past ZCCC Board of which I was a member. No, I don’t remember the year. The purpose was to encourage our members to be more active and attend more events by awarding a point to every member that attended the event, including monthly meetings. The object is to accumulate enough points, 15 to be exact, to qualify for an Active Member award. I’m sure you all know the rest of the rules associated with Active Member Points, and if you don’t you can look it up in the Constitution and By-Laws of the Club. “Events” is the last section of the document at page 16. Active Member Points wasn’t a bad idea at the time. However, the concept became adulterated when a contingent of the Club wanted more points for multi-day events and the Board, which I was still on, caved in and made changes to the Constitution to allow multiple points for multi-day events. The decision to do this has resulted in more rules and guidelines and semi-arbitrary decisions as to how many points to award to members that attend certain specified events. In retrospect I think this was a mistake.

When the Board approved more points for multi-day events, I believe that’s when the concept and practice of Active Member Points took on a life of its own and so much for attending events for the sheer joy of camaraderie and driving our cars. I had thought the purpose of active member points was clear: Come on out and attend events for the joy of it and the Club will give you some little trinket at the Annual Banquet though rarely has the Active Member Award been just a trinket. Each year the VP tries to find something nice, not too expensive and usually useful, to give out as awards, but each year I hear that someone (This word is used as a general and generic term and not meant to single out any one person) isn’t happy with the award or doesn’t find it useful or attractive to them. Just shows you can’t please everyone. I recall one year that the awards were quite expensive and I don’t recall anyone being less than satisfied that year but I really don’t know what that says about the members: Maybe nothing. But I believe that Active Member Points was an interesting experiment but it has not succeeded in its purpose and should probably be eliminated rather than be given a greater life than it has now.

“My heart will break as I watch you go but your kind of love is hard to hold
It seems you and I are losing touch so I’ll wish you love and honey lots of luck
Well lots of luck and a big goodbye and you can’t say I didn’t try
It well could be that I tried too much
And that’s why you’re leaving but honey lots of luck
Now you want love and a big gold mine well that combination is hard to find
Cause money don’t always walk with luck but you can go looking and honey lots of luck
Well lots of luck and a big goodbye…
Well honey lots of luck
Go on and leave now and baby lots of luck”

— Ernest Tubb

Active member points and the awards/gifts that go with it have lost their purpose and are not accomplishing what the plan was to accomplish. Attendance at the Annual Banquet is at an all time low and if that isn’t demoralizing I don’t know what is. On top of that, the points program has become the be-all and end-all of the job duties of the VP, not leaving time for something constructive like growing the membership of the Club. I think it’s time to drop the Active Member program all together. Think about the money it will save the Club and all the time it will free up for the VP to do something constructive like marketing. If our members don’t want to participate without a reward for doing it, then maybe this Club has run its course. I tried to grow the membership but I did not succeed and I regret that. There is so much more we could have done and didn’t. I didn’t know what to do with the limited ideas I had on the subject and no one who does know what to do has stepped up to help despite many appeals and calls for someone to help. I thought that we could use our partnership with ZCCM Magazine to accomplish something but I didn’t/don’t have the ability to exploit that opportunity. Yes, there are ways I failed the Club but I tried. If the Club is going to survive it’s going to have to change and attract younger members who are going to make changes us old farts won’t favor but will be necessary. However, at this time I don’t believe that Active Member Points are the way to do it.
As the next and last lyrics infer, I’m retiring from active service and I’ll see how things look from the cheap seats.
I do want to thank the volunteers who have given so much to the Club and I hope they feel rewarded by the efforts they have put forth.
I now end my last lengthy, though I feel well written, President’s Column.

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, adieu
Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu

Ira Sanders

Constitution Proposal

PDF of 2019 ZCCC Constitution

Proposed amendment to the Constitution & By-laws of the Z Car Club of Colorado:

Section I – Definition
Sanctioned Event: An event organized or hosted by a ZCCC member(s) that meets the following criteria. Points will only be awarded for sanctioned events.

  1. All sanctioned events must be posted in the Odometer for a minimum of one issue for at least 15 days prior to the event
    Proposed: All sanctioned events must be posted in at least one or more of the following approved ZCCC platforms for a minimum of 15 days
    I. The Odometer
    II. The Website (www.zccc.org)
    III. Z Car Club of Colorado Facebook page or Z Car club of Colorado Members Facebook group
  2. Notification via the Website/mailpoet or FaceBook may be disseminated by the Vice-President but may not be used instead of the required posting in the Odometer
    Proposed: The Vice President will ensure the date is available on the ZCCC Calendar. More than one event may be scheduled on the same day as long as the times do not overlap or the events do not involve similar activities.
  3. The date must be available on the ZCCC Calendar as determined by the Vice-President. The Vice-President is responsible for posting events to the website and notifying the Odometer Editor of the events
    Proposed: The event description must be sent to the Vice President electronically and must include the fol-lowing:
    I. When
    II. Where
    III. What
    IV. Host or Organizer
    V. Cost if any
    VI. Itinerary
  4. More than one event may be scheduled on the same day as long as the times do not conflict or the events do not involve similar activities
    Proposed: Once the electronic event description is received and approved by the Vice President, the Vice President will send the electronic event description to all the following:
    The Odometer Editor to be published in the Odometer
    The Webmaster to be added to the ZCCC Website
    The Social Media Director for the Z Car Club of Colorado Facebook page and group

The following will be stricken: 5. The event may be disseminated through the ZCCC FaceBook page by the FaceBook Master provided the Vice-President has provided approval for the posting. A posting on FaceBook may not be used instead of a posting in the Odometer

The following will be stricken: 6. The following information must be provided in the posting;
I. When
II. Where
III. What
IV. Host or Organizer
V. Cost if any
VI. Itinerary

Non-Sanctioned Event:
An event organized or hosted by a ZCCC member(s) that does not meet the criteria for a Sanctioned Event. Points will not be awarded for non-sanctioned events.

Proposed: An event organized or hosted by a ZCCC member(s) that does not meet the criteria of a Sanctioned Event. If the event is posted in the Odometer, or on the ZCCC Website or on the Z Car Club of Colorado Facebook page, it must be designated as a Non-Sanctioned event. Points will not be awarded for Non-Sanctioned events.

Constitution Committee Statements

Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this section are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Z Car Club of Colorado or the Odometer editor.

Constitution Committee Member: Don Gordon

Here is the reason I believe the amendment should be made…
Today, as an example, is August 16, 2019. I have an event I want to host. I send the event description electronically to the Vice President who approves it the same day.

According to the current Constitution under Sanctioned Events, the event must be posted in the Odometer for a minimum of 15 days. The cut-off for the September Odometer was August 15, 2019. That means this event will not make it into the September Odometer and will not be posted until the October Odometer. Then the earliest the event can be is on October 15, 2019.

That means the event cannot occur until 60 days from today. I believe 15 days is a sound amount of time so that our members can be informed about and plan for an event. But I believe 60 days is an unreasonable and unnecessary amount of time to have to wait.

The Z Car Club of Colorado has many approved ways in which to inform members about an event and I believe we should allow them to be used in addition to the Odometer.

Constitution Committee Member: Andy Mortenson

Here is the reason we require 15 days notice:

The club used to require 30 days notice. The reason this much advanced notice was required in the first place, was so members would have time to plan their attendance and participation. An extreme case would have been one in which an event could be scheduled so it falls the day after the Odometer comes out.

As far as Don’s proposed wording for Article III, Item 1. I’d be O.K. if it read “All sanctioned events must be posted in at least two of the following approved ZCCC platforms for at minimum 15 days”. That way if Facebook is used, than it would have to be posted on the website or the Odometer as well.

Constitution Committee Member: Ira Sanders, President

Don is describing an extreme example of a situation which has yet to ever occur and result in the denial of sanctioned event status to anyone who has wanted to put on an event. This is a backdoor argument to try to get around prior Board decisions to not make FaceBook a valid method of notification of an event to the Club members which I, AND prior Board members believed would open the process of obtaining participation points to abuse. Additionally, and possibly more importantly, a number of members do not use FB and would not install it on their computer for a variety of reasons.

Don also proposes using the website to give notice of upcoming events. This method also puts the burden on the club member to seek out the website just to see if there are any events they don’t know about. I feel this is an undue burden on the member just as FB is.

Notification through the Odometer as the official communication device of the Club, gives all members notice of upcoming events at the same time and with minimal effort on the member’s part. They read the Odometer and the event is there in black and white and they don’t have to go searching out 2 other sources just in case there happens to be an event listed somewhere other than the official communication method of the Club.

As for Don’s extreme example, a similar situation did arise and the event was included in the Odometer and became a sanctioned event in accordance with the existing rules and guidelines and everyone has received notice of the event in accordance with the rules of the Constitution.

Constitution Committee Member: Tammy Sanders, Editor

I question what happens if the club witnesses abuse or no one shows up to the event for a multitude of reasons as a result of not being required posting in as many documents as possible? Events are posted in the Odometer and talked about at meetings. Members know about events through the website, but it is the Odometer that provides the greater detail of information. The Odometer comes out both in a web version, PDF or paper copy. I know that no where in the Constitution does it state that the Odometer is the official source for dissemination of club business, news and events, since the club was formed in 1983, the Odometer has acted as such a device.

Judy Gordon Accident
Our sweet violet of the club, has been in a terrible accident on her way to Estes Park. While experiencing a fit of sneezes, she smashed into a bunch of boulders and rolled into a ravine. She has had reconstructive surgery on her femur, stitches on her forehead and covered in cuts from the broken glass. She is expected to make a full recovery but it will take time.
She asks that people send videos to help cheer her.
Judy, take care of your self.
The Club’s hopes and prayers are with you.

Meet Your 2020 ZCCC Board
President: Don Gordon
Vice President: Open
Membership: Andy Mortenson
Treasurer: Bill Lohringel
Secretary: Cheryl McKenney
Public Relations: Nate Derman
Inter-club Liaison: Open
Odometer Editor: Tammy Sanders

We have vacancies that need to be filled. Join the board for a year.


To protect club member’s privacy, for events hosted by members, please log into zccc.org to view organizer’s contact info and Google Map.

NO October General Meeting

November General Meeting

When: Wednesday Nov 6, 2019 @ 7pm
Where: Overland Golf Course
Directions: 1801 S Huron Street, Denver, CO 80223 (Near Santa Fe & Evans) [Note: Everyone attending is requested to order off the Menu]

35th Annual ZCCC Banquet

When: Saturday, October 5, 2019 from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m.
Where: Cinzzetti’s Italian Buffet, 281 W 104th Ave, Northglenn, CO 80234
Host: Tammy Sanders Odometer@zccc.org
Cost: $22.16 per person, (Senior) 65+ $19.99 per person
Deadline: Sign up by contacting Tammy. Payment in Full must be received by Tammy Sanders NO LATER than October 5 at the banquet.

This year’s ZCCC Annual Banquet will be at Cinzzetti’s Italian Buffet in Northglenn. The board believes the costs for dinner is very reasonable, and will not be subsidizing a portion of the meal as they have the past few years. The event begins with socializing at 3:00 pm followed by brief board reports, announcements, outgoing, install your new 2019/2020 board and of course dinner.
The Buffet consists of 8 stations: Parmesan, Rotisserie, Tavola Calda, Salad/Antipasto, Marchetta, The Pizzeria, Pasta and Bakery, Ice Tea, Soda and Water are included in the price.
All other beverages are on your own
Cost per person with tax is $22.16. Seniors 65+ $19.99. Dress Code: Casual but nice.
Start the New Year right by picking up your first point by joining your outgoing ZCCC board at the Annual Banquet This is the Club’s annual ending/beginning of the year meeting. Dress is Casual but nice.

I am afraid this may be the last year for the banquet due to low participation. It is not feasible to spend the time, effort and cost with such low participation numbers.

ZCCC Autocross and Car Show

When: Saturday, October 12, 2019 start 9 am
Where: Arapahoe Park Horse Track: 26000 E Quincy Ave, Aurora, CO 80013
Host: Travis Scott
Cost: $25-$50 dependent on number of participants
Deadline: None

This is a club event to experience autocross, and is open to other car clubs/auto enthusiasts. Primarily the goal is to have a safe fun environment to perform an autocross timed event.
It is a great event for members regardless of driving skill and your cars performance level. It will be a timed short, small course full of twists and turns that will test proper braking and the vehicle’s handling. Let’s take advantage of the fun our Z’s are capable of. A mistake may cost you to possibly need to buff out cone marks but no crashing into a wall or landing on rocks. Helmets are required and there will be a waiver to sign to participate. Helmets, closed toed shoes, long pants and long sleeves are required to be worn during your time on the course. Extra helmets will be available if you don’t have one. I encourage everyone to invite spectators and other car enthusiasts. There will be enough space for cars to stage and more to show them off for those not out on the course. I think this will be good for the club to get our name out there and show we can autocross with the best of them.
Current projections for member costs is based on the number of people that have shown interest in participating. Right now its projected to be $25-$50 per person. The more participants we have, the lower the cost per person. I’m trying to get vendors so we have something to eat and drink. I’m looking to setup a tent with water and stuff for club members. Travis

What is Autocross and What To Expect:

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autocross

Gear and Gasoline: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTf6008UsMw&feature=youtu.be

What you need to know when Getting Into Autocross:

Everything you should know to prepare for your first autocross!
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8UKljsNN_M
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkX4eKRlX2o

Membership News & Club Info

Aug: John Rooker, Jeff Ruth, Jonathan Sar, Manny Strauch
Sep: Pat Clements, Mike Goddard, Michelle Ku, John Marr, John & Susan Mavis, Scott Swiger, Phil Taylor & Susan Goldsmith
Oct: Chris Houghton, Jim Nelson, Jowe Ramirez

Welcome to New Members:
Dennis Mateski, of Lakewood, He owns 1990 300ZX 2+2
Chris and Tammy Romano, of Westminster, They own a 2004 350Z

Membership Information
Memberships – 88
Members – 113

Happy Birthday to You

(10/1) Rosemary Guthrie
(10/5) Jack Epling
(10/8) Vincent Nicoletti
(10/11) John Marr
(10/12) David Fisher
(10/12) Gerald Drefahl
(10/18) Cheryle Derman
(10/21) Lee Hill
(10/21) Shawn Krebs
(10/24) Brian Lehrenz

Member Dues
Dues: Single Membership $35, Family $45, Corporate $50. To receive the Odometer via postal mail add $10 annually.

Guest Speakers
If you know of someone or have ideas, please contact and coordinate with VP Don Gordon: vice-president@zccc.org. You receive a point for inviting them.

ZCCM Magazine
If you would like to join the subscription, the cost is $13.50. Please speak with Ira Sanders to sign up and receive your hard and soft copy.

Moving or Have Moved

Don’t forget to update your address, phone numbers and email in the “Edit My Profile” under your name in the upper right corner.

Club Sponsor


Directory of Club Officers & Appointed Positions

Vacant Position: Welcoming host, Concessions/name badges

September Meeting Minutes

September 4, 2019, Overland Golf Course
The meeting was called to order at at 7:01 pm.
Welcome to new member Mike and Debbie Ramirez
Secretary Report: Cheryl McKenney
Approval of minutes from the August meeting
Vice President Report: Don Gordon
There are now 23 members who have reached active member status and will be receiving an award at the annual banquet.  The point totals are up to date as of tonight’s meeting
Past events:
 Aug 10th – ZCCC Car Show at Spartan College
 Aug 17th – Holy Rollers Car Show
 Aug 24 – Eastern Plains Colorado Drive
Upcoming events:
 Sep 7th – City of Centennial Car Show – Unsanctioned event
 Sep 8th – Murphy Creek Car Show – Unsanctioned event
 Sep 15th – Zunday Mystery Drive #1
 Sep 21st – MABC Car Show
 Sep 22nd –Zunday Mystery Drive #2
 Sep 29th – Zunday Mystery Drive #3
 Oct 5th – Annual Banquet at Cinzettie’s restaurant
 Oct 12th – Auto Cross at Arapaho Park

Treasurer’s Report: Bill Lohringel – Not preset and nothing to report
Membership Report: Andy Mortenson – We currently have 83 memberships, 106 members
Public Relations Report: Mike Goddard – Nothing to report at this time.
Inter-club Report: Travis Scott – Nothing to report at this time
Odometer Report: Tammy Sanders – If you have any pictures for the Odometer, please send them to Tammy. Submissions to the Odometer are due by 20th of the month.
President: Ira Sanders – The club received a $200 sponsorship payment for the Spartan College car show and would like to donate it back to the College. A motion was made, a vote taken and the proposal passed. the club is still looking for someone to take over the duties for the ZCCM subscription and the raffle duties. there have been some questions regarding a club phone number and currently there is no number being billed. All reference to the number will be removed from the website.

Guest Speaker: None

Old Business:
The elections for the new Board were held and the following will be the new slate of officers:
President – Don Gordon
Vice President – Open
Secretary – Cheryl McKenney
Treasurer – Bill Lohringel
Membership – Andy Mortenson
Public Relations – Nate Derman
Odometer – Tammy Sanders
Inter-club – Open
A discussion and vote was taken on the changes to the Constitution and By-laws. Only those items that had changes proposed were discussed. A motion was made, a vote taken and was passed to correct all of the typos in the document. A motion was made, a vote taken and was passed as to the term of the Vice President and the President. Any new changes to the Constitution or By-laws will need to be discussed at future meetings.

New Business: – None
Winner of the 50/50 give away, Jason Spegal
Meeting adjourned at 8:29 pm.


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Constitution and By-Laws Of Z Car Club of Colorado, Revised August 2019

The final version of the Constitution & By-Laws has been posted to this website and attached to the downloadable Odometer as PDF.

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